tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12343095.post1742295127188993202..comments2024-02-01T22:14:25.055+00:00Comments on UK TOP SECRET Postman Patel: Smoking - slow, self medicated suicide - on the decline - at lastzizhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15249645812407323273noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12343095.post-63707683439090117322008-08-01T16:25:00.000+01:002008-08-01T16:25:00.000+01:00however the thrust of your argument is that there ...<I>however the thrust of your argument is that there is NO danger from proximal living , sharing a bed with a heavy smoker.</I><BR/><BR/>I am not saying there is no danger, it is a question of keeping it in proportion to risk.<BR/><BR/>There is more risk involved from the same chemicals of living with someone who regularly uses hair spray, fly spray or household detergents.<BR/><BR/>By far a IanPJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17911432983440475284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12343095.post-77425646625935922192008-08-01T16:17:00.000+01:002008-08-01T16:17:00.000+01:00"The drop in heart attack admissions is not tied i...<I>"The drop in heart attack admissions is not tied in any way to reduced smoking."<BR/><BR/>It appears that the drop in admissions is a fact - alternative explanations can be sent to the authors of the report.</I><BR/><BR/>This included ;<BR/><BR/>• A 14% reduction in admissions for acute coronary syndrome among smokers.<BR/>• A 19% reduction among former smokers.<BR/>• A 21% reduction among IanPJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17911432983440475284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12343095.post-80211511397918532372008-08-01T16:04:00.000+01:002008-08-01T16:04:00.000+01:00ianpj - Many thnx for comments and kind words - Ad...ianpj - Many thnx for comments and kind words - Admittedly Lord Patel's experience of a lifetime living with smokers may colour his judgement - however the thrust of your argument is that there is NO danger from proximal living , sharing a bed with a heavy smoker.<BR/><BR/>Naturally such epidemiological studies are full of caveats ec.,<BR/><BR/>Cause and effect have not been directly established zizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15249645812407323273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12343095.post-9847622869711476822008-08-01T15:30:00.000+01:002008-08-01T15:30:00.000+01:00Your Lordship,It is very very rarely that I am inc...Your Lordship,<BR/><BR/>It is very very rarely that I am inclined to disagree with any of your posts.<BR/><BR/>However, in this case I will. The entire passive smoking argument is based on BAD science. Statistics designed to sound bad but little or no science to back it up.<BR/><BR/>Look at the studies you have quoted and in every case the key words are:<BR/><BR/>Munster: 'could be attributedIanPJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17911432983440475284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12343095.post-44699642637322834332008-08-01T13:22:00.000+01:002008-08-01T13:22:00.000+01:00I find dr ernest sternglass and lleuren moret quit...I find dr ernest sternglass and lleuren moret quite compelling on the subject of <A HREF="http://www.namastepublishing.co.uk/Populations%20Exposed%20to%20Enviromental%20Uranium.htm" REL="nofollow">anthropogenic radioactive ionisation</A><BR/><BR/>Mindfully.org is good as wellpaulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608591025225519578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12343095.post-66735724736085017302008-08-01T13:00:00.000+01:002008-08-01T13:00:00.000+01:00Paul - thanks for the link. Sounds highly plausibl...Paul - thanks for the link. Sounds highly plausible. Lord Patel's father had a theory that the carcinogenic component was to be found in the cigarette paper - cigars and pipe tobacco - of which he smoked immoderate amounts - do not appear to be related to lung cancers.<BR/><BR/>It would be worth examining if in cigarette paper manufufacture, handling, polonium was / is used as a dust attractant.<zizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15249645812407323273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12343095.post-38065276601375392742008-08-01T11:45:00.000+01:002008-08-01T11:45:00.000+01:00Maybe they could make a slightly safer ciggie, the...Maybe they could make a slightly safer ciggie, they could call it the <A HREF="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/01/opinion/01proctor.html" REL="nofollow">litvenenko</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.lenntech.com/periodic-chart-elements/po-en.htm" REL="nofollow">Lung cancer rates among men kept climbing from a rarity in 1930 (4/100,000 per year) to the No. 1 cancer killer in 1980 (72/100,000) in paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608591025225519578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12343095.post-64640526564986976702008-08-01T10:52:00.000+01:002008-08-01T10:52:00.000+01:00(Dragon) Duncan Bannatyne's recent report, suggest...(Dragon) Duncan Bannatyne's recent report, suggested (at least in part) that smokers/ciggie consumers was merely shifting further afield like Malawi, Mauritius and Nigeria.<BR/><BR/>Living in this part of Asia I see smoking is prolific.<BR/><BR/>A drop in western smoking, is I feel, compensated for by an increase across the rest of the world.<BR/><BR/>Cheers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com