"“We have lent a huge amount of money to the U.S. Of course we are concerned about the safety of our assets. To be honest, I am definitely a little worried.” "


Chinese premier Wen Jiabao 12th March 2009


""We have a financial system that is run by private shareholders, managed by private institutions, and we'd like to do our best to preserve that system."


Timothy Geithner US Secretary of the Treasury, previously President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.1/3/2009

Friday, July 15, 2005

Another bloody silly conspiracy theory

We all make assumptions. Four guys were carrying bombs that blew up. They knew each other, they had travelled together that day, twoAsians from Leeds, an Asian friend from Leeds who had moved to Luton and a West Indian guy who had recently arrived in Aylesbury.

The four men joined the Thamesmead train from Luton to London Kings Cross carrying rucksacks. They looked, said a police man who has seen CCTV footage from Kings Cross Main Hall," as though they were going on a walking holiday", smiling joking.

They split up, three to die within some 20 minutes, the fourth an eighteen year old another hour later on a bus where he was sat on the back seat upstairs.

All of them were carrying bombs that killed them.

You know that. Did they ?

Consider this news item from the Scotsman December 11th 2004.

Mohammed Hanif, 31, and Abdul Mateen, 22, from Deeplish in Rochdale were caught in Glasgow with 10kg of the drug, worth £1 million in street deals. Hanif claimed that Mateen had driven him to Glasgow to collect £500 owed to him for a car by another Asian. Strathclyde Police drug squad detectives, acting on a tip-off, arrested the pair and found the drugs in a car boot.The men said they knew nothing about the drugs.
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=1162&id=1453462004

Drugs are a massive business, they are moved into and around the country endlessly, apparently with minimal disruption, 10Kg of heroin – (5 bags of granulated sugar) are worth £1Mn at street level.

What do we know ?

We know the bombs went off. We know the bombers did not act alone. Somebody somewhere sent them on their deadly mission.

So someone, somewhere, wanted to send four young Asian / Muslim men with primed and timed bombs onto London Transport.

Imagine being faced with this task. You are young management graduate , student officer , war gamer, member of a revolutionary Islamic jihad movment, a member of a state sponsored security organisation in the UK, Israel, the USA ?

Think out of the box.

Say you make it your business to get alongside the unemployed, the vulnerable, rebellious, anti-authoritarian youth. “ You want some money, you want to be in on the scene”.

“Take this package, meet a man – come back £100 cash. No questions”
“ Hire a car take this package, get a friend drive to this place, meet a man – come back collect £500 cash ”

He doesn’t look in the bag, these guys play hard ball. Take it. Deliver it. Get paid. Go away forget the man. Forget the face. Wait for the call. Everybody does it man. Seen the barred outside doors in Beeston. Inside as well. Drugs.Drugs. Play some football, in the park , cricket in season, go to the mosque like dad wants me to.

“ Take the car, meet a man all take one of the bags deliver to these 3 places – come back collect £ 1000. Cash”

…and so on. Maybe he even fits in a trip for himself, for others to Pakistan. To go to a madrassa ? To see the BIG man in Pakistan where it all comes from, seeping out of Afghanistan. Maybe go on Haj – that costs money, but he we have it.

Soon enough your man has bought himself , like one of the bombers a brand new red Mercedes. He’s not bought a car, he’s bought prestige, he’s a man on the street – everyone knows by what method, but hey he stands his round and his famil are very generous.

..and so on.

Then eventually we have a big deal, hire the cars, drive here, meet the man, take the train , take the four underground trains, the man will meet you, back on the train, back in the car, back here - £XXXX cash – luvvly jubbly.

Another big deal

Another

Then the BIG deal.

They’ve done this before. The bags, don’t look, don’t ask. 2 grand apiece and there’s going to be another run next week. Meet back as usual in the Starbucks near the British Library. 2 o-clock … and don’t switch your bloody phone on or use it.

But the don’t come back. One mother, anxious like mums are, is worried, her boy has been to London before, like he says, he’s never late for his mum. A good boy, he’s only young, maybe he has got in with some bad boys, been caught shoplifting but they all do it – he’ll grow out of it. Give the Police a call. It’s late. He should be in bed asleep at his age.

He is asleep. Forever.

Far fetched ? Find a fact that doesn’t fit.

Of course all sorts of people with all sorts of agendas are pointing their finger at Islamic fundamentalists – Al Quaida, Al Johnson, Al Read maybe. That’s an agenda that supports, a state of perpetual war, perpetual terror, a need for more legislation to restrict liberties, control freedoms, issue what will be (effectively) internal passports, or what we called in the days of apartheid, Pass books.

Now it’s a big jump to say that the main agents of this criminal endeavour are agents of a state – well take your pick, Israel, UK, USA or a religious grouping, Muslims, Zionists, Methodists – freelance embedded warriors in the State’s apparatus, MI6, Mossad, CIA.

It does show that there is more than one way of getting 4 young men on London Transport, whilst G8 is on, whilst President Bush is a guest in the country, to blast 50 odd travellers to their deaths. Of course you kill the couriers.

Dead men. Tell no tales.

7 comments:

Stef said...

Personally I agree with your line of thinking but there's no evidence that any of these guys were criminally-inclined, except for one of them who'd been done for shoplifting. They seem like quite decent young men. If anything connects them it's love of sport rather than fanatical Islam or criminality.

I'm waiting for more of the supposed 'evidence' to come out before I try and figure out how they were tricked into doing what they did. And, to an open mind, it certainly looks like they were tricked. Let's wait for the CCTV footage from Kings Cross, if it's ever released. If it is, I'm expecting to see ...

- four blokes looking like they're about to go on a lark NOT about to slaughter themsleves and other people
- full-size matching backpacks

My gut feel is that they thought they were playing some kind of game (reality TV?) or taking part in some kind of exercise. Why would they carry only 10lbs of explosive each when they apparently had enough to leave in their car and back home. I'd suggest that's because the bombs were concealed in the bottom of packs under a pile of other stuff before somebody handed them out. Something went wrong with one of the bombs and one of the poor sods realised something was up. That's why we were lied to about the reasons for the blast for two hours and that's why the mobile networks were closed down. One bloke hadn't died when he was supposed to and some very nasty people were looking for him with the assistance of a communications blackout before he could say anything. And that's why the bus CCTV went AWOL

Mind you, what good is all this speculation going to do? 99% of people, including all Muslim spokespeople, have made up their minds without any hard evidence or convincing explanation. The guys who set this up have already won

Nur-al-Cubicle said...

I hadn't considered errand bombers! You may be on to something!

Nur-al-Cubicle said...

doh! the jamaican!

Anonymous said...

They found explosives at one of these guys' houses didn't they? I don't buy it but it's worth thinking about alternative possibilities I suppose.

quarsan said...

well, it is a possibility, and a few more facts will fit it. from the sun:

yesterday there was speculation the four bombers could have been duped into carrying devices without realising they were going to explode while in their possession.

Sir Ian admitted it was “puzzling” the gang were carrying personal identity documents when their remains where found.

The bombers had also bought a pay and display ticket for their hire car at Luton Railway Station.

One security source said: “It is slightly odd that they bought a parking ticket. It is not the sort of thing you might think of if you knew you were just about to die.

“There’s a very slim possibility they were set up.”

quarsan said...

am just thinking......

why hire a car? to get to a railway station? you need id to hire a car, wouldn't a bus have been more anonymous, or even a taxi?

why hire a car?

Anonymous said...

Great logic and it would appear you have been to mule school....just a smile...

There is a book that you will find interesting along these lines titled WHITE SNOW in block white letters on a deep blue background. Written in the early 70's by some folks in the drug running business using the Colombia USA circuit and also by the DEA in their sting operations. GHW Bush was then the DEA Chief, and who knows what his son was supposed to be doing.

The book, whose author I've forgotten, went into intricate detail on how to transport drugs by unwitting mules, and those who could play the part of unwitting mules, so as not to fit the profiles of note and have a raison d'etre....

The methods used are ingeneous, and rather simple.

Enjoy the read if you can find the book.

Bests,
John McCarthy
vpocv@comcast.net

(C) Very Seriously Disorganised Criminals 2002/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 - copy anything you wish