"“We have lent a huge amount of money to the U.S. Of course we are concerned about the safety of our assets. To be honest, I am definitely a little worried.” "


Chinese premier Wen Jiabao 12th March 2009


""We have a financial system that is run by private shareholders, managed by private institutions, and we'd like to do our best to preserve that system."


Timothy Geithner US Secretary of the Treasury, previously President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.1/3/2009

Saturday, September 30, 2006

Jean Charles de Menezes - FOI request to MOD refused, rejected, rebuffed.


Tom Griffin at Green Ribbon wrote to the MOD asking for information under the FOI and relating to the murder of Jean Charles de Menezes , he sets out the substantive parts of the reply he received. He points out that the lack of an answer to questions 1,2 and 3 especially, is perhaps an indication of the lack of accountability of some "elements of the state" for their role in events which led to the death of an innocent man.

"I am writing in response to your e-mail dated 31 August this year in which you requested information about events surrounding the death of Jean Charles De Menezes on 22 July 2005. Your e-mail has been considered to be a request for information in accordance with the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

I will take your questions in two blocks:
1. What reviews or inquiries have been undertaken into the role of Army personnel in the events surrounding the death of Jean Charles De Menezes on 22 July 2005?
2. What were the conclusions of any such reviews or inquiries?
3. What, if any, disciplinary action has been taken against Army personnel as a result of the events surrounding the death of Jean Charles De Menezes?
4. What co-operation has the Independent Police Complaints Commission sought and received from the Ministry of Defence, the Army and from individual MOD or Army personnel?
5. Were any MOD or Army personnel interviewed under caution by the IPCC Inquiry?
6 Has the Army Prosecuting Authority considered any prosecutions as a result of the events surrounding the death of Jean Charles De Menezes?

Your request has been considered under the terms of the Freedom of Information Act, and in reliance on the exemptions in sections 23(5), 24(2) and 44(2) of the Act I neither confirm nor deny whether the MOD holds any information relevant to your request. To the extent that Section 24(2) applies, we have determined that in all the cirumstances of the case the public interest in maintaining the exclusion of the duty to confirm or deny outweighs the public interest in confirming whether or not the information is held. To give a statement of the reasons why these exemptions apply would involve the disclosure of information which would itself be exempt. (Yossarian you should be living at this hour) Therefore, under section 17(4) of the Act, I am not obliged to give such a statement.

7. Is the Special Reconnaissance Regiment subject to monitoring by the Office of the Surveillance Commissioner under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000?
8. Is the Special Reconnaissance Regiment subject to scrutiny by the Intelligence Commissioner under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000?
9. Is the Special Reconnaissance Regiment subject to scrutiny by the Intelligence and Security committee of Parliament?

We are unable to release the information we hold relating to the Special Reconaissance Regiment (SRR) as the information in question relates to UK Special Forces, of which the SRR is part. Therefore it is exempt from disclosure under section 23(3)(d) of the Freedom of Information Act."

Which appears to be an elaborate way of saying Fuck Off.

Lord Patel wrote to the PCC asking if their remit covered investigating people who were involved in the de Menezes incident at Stockwell, who were not employed as policemen (reading the legislation establishing the PCC suggests they cannot). A prompt reply was received which said that they had just been appointed (true) and that they would eventually produce a report.

Pic Menwith Hill, Plod takes Lord Patel's picture. Left mouse click to enlarge.

1 comment:

Tom Griffin said...

I asked the IPCC the same question a while ago. Their spokesman made an analogy with police doctors, but basically left me with the impression that the army are outside their remit.

(C) Very Seriously Disorganised Criminals 2002/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 - copy anything you wish