"“We have lent a huge amount of money to the U.S. Of course we are concerned about the safety of our assets. To be honest, I am definitely a little worried.” "

Chinese premier Wen Jiabao 12th March 2009

""We have a financial system that is run by private shareholders, managed by private institutions, and we'd like to do our best to preserve that system."

Timothy Geithner US Secretary of the Treasury, previously President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.1/3/2009

Wednesday, September 05, 2007

From the guys who brought you Murder, mayhem in the morning in Manhattan ... DIY Rambos ready to hit Ramstein

So the guys who brought this to new York ..... Mr & Mrs Al Quaeda

Have been out shopping in Germany to bring you bombs made with this...

At the trial of the 21/7 Bombers at Wooolwich on 24th January 2007 the jury heard evidence from a forensic scientist Claire McGavagan who studied the remains of 'bombs' which had failed to properly explode just two weeks after the 7/7 atrocities.

Before July 2005 her laboratory had never experienced hydrogen peroxide based explosives.

It (the bomb material) was not weighed, but Ms McGavagan estimated it would weigh several kilograms.

The jury was told that for safety reasons most of the materials recovered from the alleged attack were destroyed.

A remarkable feature of bombs that are alleged to have been constructed of TATP involving the use of Hydrogen Peroxide mixed with anything from Chappati flour to hair gel seems to be ..

1. Leading Forensic scientists had no experience before 7/7 of such devices.

2. It has never been established or even claimed by any forensic scientist that TATP has been used successfully in an improvised explosive device.

3. The devices made by the 21/7 "bombers" they claimed were not made to explode - and didn't.

4. The charges for causing explosions were dropped from the charge sheet for the 21/7 "bombers".

Yet Al Quaeda organisation which could hi-jack airplanes , demolish 3 towers in new York, bury two Boeing passenger jets and their crew and passengers so they could never be found etc., etc., go round making home made bombs ... when military explosives are readily available and were widely used over any years by IRA, Unionists, ETA, Red Brigade ( and Gladio).

Strangely , Germany has seen the attempt to bomb US military installations in the past, (21 years ago) including a night club used by service personnel.

German TV exposes CIA, Mossad links to 1986 Berlin disco bombing By a German correspondent on the World Socialist Website 27 August 1998

This article demonstrates that the German ZDF TV magazine Frontal exposed on August 25th 1998 evidence that some of the main suspects in the 1986 Berlin disco bombing, (pic) the stated reason for the lethal assault on Libya worked for American and Israeli intelligence. The State Prosecutor who was complicit in concealing the involvement of the CIA and Mossad was ...... Detlev Mehlis.... who has now (purely accidentally) revealed the authors and masterminds of the Hariri assassination.


The Frontal report arrives at the following conclusions:

1) The lead defendant presently on trial, Yasser Chraidi, is very possibly innocent, and is being used as a scapegoat by German and American intelligence services.

2) At least one of the defendants, Musbah Eter, has been working for the CIA over many years.

3) Some of the key suspects have not appeared in court, because they are being protected by Western intelligence services.

4) At least one of those, Mohammed Amairi, is an agent of Mossad, the Israeli secret service.On September 9, 1996, the very day the Berlin judge threatened to release Chraidi, Berlin public prosecutor Detlev Mehlis, Berlin police inspector Uwe Wilhelms and a Mr. Winterstein of the German Federal Intelligence Service (BND) met Musbah Eter in the Mediterranean island state of Malta.

Detlev Mehlis - of course the dodgy German prosecutor who investigated the Hariri murder - which remains unsolved but was the work of Mossad.

The last disco bombing gave Ronnie the chance to bomb our new found ally, Colonel Gadaffi in Libya.... will there be an Iranian / Syrian / Lebanese / Hizbollah / Hamas sub plot suficient to justify taking out Teheran this time round ?



gepay said...

It was never clear to me what explosives were used in the 7/7 bombing. At first, since they allegedly brough in backbacks, that they were fairly small but powerful bombs made of military grade explosive. I watched them morph into homemade bombs made of 'mother of Satan' peroxide bombs made of off the shelf ingredients, easy to procure, with instructions off the internet. These were linked to an apartment that was possibly rented by (it was never clear) the suspect 4 or an Egytian graduate studentin biochemistry (who might have had the chemical knowledge to construct the bombs but ws later cleared). In it were found either more homemade bombs (like later found in a car), or lbs and lbs of the needed ingredients,or just traces of them - it was never clear.Thursday July 14, 2005 - The Guardian

They will be able to pinpoint exactly where the bombs were placed and how much explosive was used in each attack.

The government's Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (DSTL) has been given the task of gathering information on the bombs, which killed more than 50 people and injured hundreds. The DSTL's forensic explosives lab at Fort Halstead will head the investigation to identify and explain what happened during the explosions.
Understandably, the investigators are keeping quiet on the exact details of their work, but explosives experts have suggested that 3D models of the blasts could be used to better understand the dynamics of the explosion.
"We could tell them where the device was placed, we'd be able to tell them how much explosive was used," says Neil Fisher, director of security solutions at Qinetiq, the former government defence research lab. "The forensic chemists will be able to tell which type of explosive was used. We understand the science of those explosives, the chemistry, so we can analyse how much explosive was used to cause that much damage."

I assume Quinetec was never called in but has anybody ever seen the results about what explosives were used from the government lab?

Shutter said...

Remarably no clear authorised statement has been made of the nature of the 7/7 bombs - French commentators claimed (very early) they used Mil spec HE and remote detonation but that dried up pretty quickly.

At the 21/7 trial one forensic scientist from Ft. hastead said they were working in the belief that 7/7 were peroxide bombs.

It is a remarkable explosive (certainly a home made one) that does not leave a chemical signature which can be easily identified, even by the mobile equipment especially deeloped for that purpose.

Detection of the explosive type would be chemical and have nothing to do with blast patterns, which is more to do with shape / size / type of detonation.

Judging by the bus bomb the only one that pictures are available for that show the whole scene the explosion was (even though there were deaths) a fairly small event and any remote decivces / triggers would / should have survived.

As all the bomb carrers are now dead it is unlikely we will ever have the chance to hear the details in court.

The evidence of the "bombs" found at Luton Station arose in the US , allegedly by NYPD officers unofficialy "leaking" wonderful X ray pictures of iconic nail bombs etc.,

Briefly the Lord Patel theory is, the "bombers" thought they were couriering drugs, the bombs were mil spec HE, remotely detonated and that this was under overall control of some amalgam of the services of Western and allied secret legions / SAS / MI5/6/7/8 Mossad / CIA.

Ditto 21/7 but this was a different cell, simply spreading confusion.

Glasgow ? The connection with London was soon lost ... maybe some genuine jihadist DIY outfit, inexperienced.

(C) Very Seriously Disorganised Criminals 2002/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 - copy anything you wish