Presidential debate ? ... and who the fuck is Joe the Plumber with a Qtr Mill in his back pocket ?

The pics you don't get to see... Protesters and police clash outside Hofstra University on Oct. 15, 2008 in Hempstead, N.Y., venue of the third and final debate between Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama. Several protesters were arrested and some were injured by equestrian police. (DON EMMERT/AFP/Getty Images)

For anyone seeking information, clear insights into the candidates policies, a rational and clear explanation of the "change" both candidates want, the overseas observer doesn't only suffer from sleep loss but boredom.

The nadir of rational thought and discussion was reached when the brown guy said - "in my 4 years we will make sure the US no longer relies on the Middle East and Venezuela for oil" - this followed the childlike understanding of economic matters revealed by the remark that - "We should no longer borrow 550 Billion from China to pay for Middle East Oil"

Well Mr Brown man , where ARE you going to rely on for your oil ? Certainly not the Caspian region where your brown sister Condi arrived the other day to a forest of cold shoulders and a complete lack of interest in the Nabucco pipeline. - for those interested see the article US standing in Caspian drips away By M K Bhadrakumar in the Asia Times this week.

Well you are not going to buy oil from Mr Chavez .. it's near, it's plentiful ? Oh we forgot that Mr Chavez nationalised the oilcos didn't he ? Shame on him as Mr Paulson told the 9 major banks he was buying their shares with more money the Gubment had printed ... fiat currency for Gubment by fiat. You have no choice Hank the Bank said.

Perhaps you are going to rely more on those nice Nigerian guys - whose Gubments regularly steal the revenues and launder their massive assets through Barclays Bank in London. Or maybe the colourful Government of Equatorial Guinea which Lebanese millionaire (millions made from shady deals in Nigerian oil) and close friend of Lord Mandelson , Eli Calil tried to overthrow.

"President" Obiang ( El Jefe The Boss or more formally Brig. Gen. Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo) has ruled Equatorial Guinea, sub-Saharan Africa's third largest oil producer, since 1979.He was elected in 1989 as the only candidate. After other parties were permitted to organize, he was reelected in 1996 and 2002 elections which were described as fraudulent by international observers.

Obiang runs most corrupt, ethnocentric, oppressive and undemocratic states in the world with the support of the US whose oilcos (ExxonMobil Corp. and Amerada Hess Corp) have a major hold on the oil fields.

Obiang deposited more than half a billion dollars into accounts controlled by him and his family at Riggs Bank in Washington, D.C

Perhaps Angola ? Well in 2003 The London-based group Global Witness, which likes to investigate the oil business in Africa, estimated that at least $1.4 billion of Angola's energy revenue disappeared.

Perhaps Iraq ? Well oil production stays stubbornly at the levels pre ilegal invasion - maybe be due to the failure to monitor oil production as testified by Stuart W. Bowen, special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction.

In addition to the estimated $16 billion loss of potential oil export revenue between January 2004 and March 2006 alone, Bowen says Iraq is paying billions of dollar to import refined petroleum products it needs.

US$16Bn stolen whilst the US Army keeps watch ... what happens when they pull out ?

The White man looked so like Aardvarks Wallace it was difficult to believe a word he said but boy did he rile the brown man when he started talking terrorism.

But terrism is a tricky business for the Repugs...So, when the question is whether to deport right-wing Cuban terrorist Luis Posada Carriles to Venezuela to face charges for the in-air bombing of a Cuban civilian airliner in 1976 (a classic act of terrorism that killed 73 people), the Bush administration finds any number of reasons why Posada must be allowed to live safely in the United States.

Suddenly the notion of “harbouring terrorists,” which President George W. Bush famously declared to be adequate grounds for invading a country anywhere in the world, doesn’t seem so bad – when his administration is doing the harbouring.

But then we are all terrists now .. there are more than 540,000 names on the U.S. government’s “terrorist watch list.” Some must deserve the government’s interest, but many others are there by mistake (in 2007, for instance, nearly 23,700 individuals’ names were removed from the database when it was determined they were improperly included).

Whoever gets in, and Lord Patel's money is on the white man / AKA Wallace .. we have 4 more years of US colonialism with an expanded military and big bucks for the military industrial complex.