"“We have lent a huge amount of money to the U.S. Of course we are concerned about the safety of our assets. To be honest, I am definitely a little worried.” "

Chinese premier Wen Jiabao 12th March 2009

""We have a financial system that is run by private shareholders, managed by private institutions, and we'd like to do our best to preserve that system."

Timothy Geithner US Secretary of the Treasury, previously President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.1/3/2009

Monday, July 18, 2005

Dead Men. Tell no Tales

Well, as the belief in the "official" story of zealous angry young Muslims who have had their brains taken out and washed seems to be seen for the nonsense it is, the belief that these "bombers" were murdered, as were all the other victims has been set running.

The Mainstream Press , of course maintains an aloof silence. A theory has been floated that they were jihadist plotters but their handlers told them they could leave the bombs, then get off at the next stop. This does not survive much scrutiny or overcome the hurdle that these guys did not fit any Islamic fundamnetalist profile however hard you try.

The "official" line - trickling out through "attributions" to anonymous "senior officers " in the Police, MI5, for all I know the Boy Scouts however keeps changing.

The bombs were timed, ...er...no they weren't.
It was military HE from the Balkans..er.. no it was a home made brew...hey they actually have bombs from the cars in Luton... are these Forensic guys properly trained ?
The Egyptian biochemist is the mastermind...er...well no he isn't say ther Egyptian Government ... and boy do they have ways of making you talk !

You make your mind up...here's some recent discussion to help you do that.

Who are the British authorities trying to protect?
Monday July 18th

Dead men tell no tales
Were the London bombings a set up?
by William Bowles and Edward Teague Friday, 15 July 2005

Forcing the facts to fit the theory
by William Bowles • Sunday, 17 July 2005

Suicide Bombers or Murdered Men? LONDON BOMBING (Updated)
by suskind
Sat Jul 16th, 2005 at 19:03:43 PDT

Of course, if you have a better theory, tell me ..or even better go to the MI5 website and tell them.

Pic courtesy Independent


Anonymous said...

I note the good advice to concentrate on the endless flaws in the Official Version. The pattern of some of these flaws I do find suggestive, however.

Has anyone else wondered if the rucksacks and those carrying them are what Alfred Hitchcock called a "McGuffin"?

The circumstances of the blasts suggest they were unlikely to be hand-delivered - their simultaneity and all going off in trains. This seems even less credible performed by dupes and in a tight 20 minutes from Kings Cross. What if the bombs were put under or in the trains overnight? Like Madrid. Each bomb in a different carriage 1-2-3 from front to look random. Getting everyone to focus on these 4 individuals and their motivation has dragged attention from the blasts themselves. 2 eyewitnesses in bomb carriages on BBC site described a hole ripped in the floor and inspection covers blown out. Observer report on 10 July included hole ripping through floor as one of the features of their reconstruction. Very unlikely with bomb placed on floor, surely?

The 4th guy gets connected to the bus bomb, an odd event which is intended to be suggestive of the non-existent rucksack bombs. Another apparently random, "human error" touch. This bomb too has been pre-placed. Look at the bombed bus photos and recall what the police have been saying about where it went off. Have a look at the back of one of those same London buses. The bus blast serves as proof of the rucksack bombs and it gives a focus for the visual appetite of the media. Compare number of images of bus to Tube. I've only seen one long shot of a train. Another big distraction is the notion of small bombs, let alone home-made. These bombs don't really seem small to me, knocking down a wall next to one train and damaging the tunnel above another. Stops people thinking about big bombs, professionally placed, unchallenged, like Madrid.

People will notice that it would be hard to steer these 4 guys into the right carriages in the right trains and onto the 30 bus. Who says they were in these places? The police seemed satisfied that them recording the presence of ID at the bomb sites is quite sufficient. No DNA tests for example. (The Sun reported the Jamaican guy's wife demanding DNA proof.) The 4 were 4 of the first 5 dead identified, weren't they?

The wealth of CCTV evidence is a bit conspicuous by its absence, isn't it? The bus is already written off. Just one of those things, it seems, from police reaction. Bomb on bus and out-of-action CCTV can not possibly be connected in Scotland Yard's mind, like possible signs of a criminal having been on the vehicle overnight. Where is the film from the various bombed trains? Have we seen even the much-cited Kings Cross footage, come to that? No footage showed any rucksack bombers at Madrid, ditto the 9/11 hijackers. We must await revelations.

Another advantage of dead men is that you can say and write whatever you like about them. If these guys' ID hadn't been found on those trains and they were not presumed dead, none of this stuff about them could be put in media releases or placed in the media, could it? And what might people be thinking in that absence?

Uponnothing said...

I will have a look into this whole conspiracy angle as I find it fascinating how people can interpret events in different ways. I will certainly keep an open mind until I have had a look at the evidence provided by the theories.

One thing is for certain, I do not trust the New Labour media circus at all.

(C) Very Seriously Disorganised Criminals 2002/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 - copy anything you wish